Private insurance - optional, takes care of routine medical needs - tax deduction for premiums, tax credits or government support for low income folks.
Tax free "health savings accounts" ala 401k
Tort reform - limit medical malpractice awards - reduce malpractice insurance
"Loser pays" lawsuits - cut down on trivial lawsuits
Insurance sales across state lines - increase availability and competition
Government funds care for catastrophic illness and preexisting conditions thru insurance companies
Simple, efficient, elegant and effective... AND less expensive
Clown... typical liberal ... how about what works for the COUNTRY... that's what those jackasses are supposed to be doing, but the dems just want to control everything they can... pinhead.
Pat - ditch the talking points and THINK for a change... try it.. you might enjoy it.
hotnwell... competition and reducing the burden of multimillion dollar malpractice awards will go a long way to reducing the costs
El Tecolote
I don't know why people keep talking about something called a "public option" when they should understand that the best "public option" is for the government to STAY THE FVCK OUT OF IT in the first place.
Fears of a Clown
OK. Let me teach you a lesson in how politics works.
When your party loses, you don't get to pass legislation that only includes the ideas of your party and no ideas of the opposing party.
When your party wins, sometimes you CAN pass legislation that only includes the ideas of your party. And sometimes you have to broker a deal to pass a bipartisan plan.
All of your ideas are GOP ideas. Some of them will probably be in a final reform bill, and they have the merit to get there.
But that being said, it's ridiculous of you to expect the Dem congress to pass a bill consisting of solely GOP ideas.
fineDayguy
What is interesting is if any of these health care bills pass, we will be spending Trillions of dollars and GAO has told us that there will still be a bunch of uninsured people anyway. they say there are about 30 million uninsured now and just a few years out if the bills pass there will still be almost 20 million uninsured.
A program that only increases the number of insured by 10 million or so and it cost us several Trillion, that does not seem to make any sense. But then when do Liberals ever make sense?
357
Is it ridiculous to ask for the Democrats to pass a Constitutional bill though?
Powers of Congress:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."
Before you claim "general welfare" check out the explanation of general welfare in Federalist 41.
Pat
1. people can't afford to pay through the asss so that private companies can continue to make $ billions$ in profits by denying health care
2. Who can afford to put money into any kind of savings account?
3. Malpractice lawsuits are not the problem. People who are killed or harmed by incompetent doctors should have a recourse for justice. And tort reform DOES NOT reduce malpractice premiums. And WHY should the public subsidize insurance for doctors who make $ millions$
4. People get screwed by insurance companies now. They'll have no protection at all if the companies can cross state lines and muddy the waters even more.
hotnwell
Not bad thoughts here. I think we need to go farther though. Somehow, prices have to come down. They are artificially inflated.
goodnight
ax free "health savings accounts" ala 401k
Would be great if you are rich enough to put millions into it. How much do you have in your 401k. I would also like you to remember that the 401k is for your retirement. If you use it all up then what? I know you buddy Rush has a contract 400 million a year I guess he would love a tax free health savings account. If I was making that kind of money. Once again the rich pull your strings.
Tort reform - limit medical malpractice awards - reduce malpractice insurance
How much are your children's arms worth it they mess up and have to amputate them? What would be the cap?
Insurance sales across state lines - increase availability and competition.
Well with all the deregulation that has been made it wouldn't be too long before all the smaller insurance company's would be taken over by the bigger ones putting all the eggs back into on giant basket. Then you will see things worse than they are now.
Government funds care for catastrophic illness and preexisting conditions thru insurance companies
Why do I care to fund it thru the insurance companies they don't make anything or add anything special why use them? I would rather have the government pay it directly to the hospital and cut out the middle man. Besides if you don't use the insurance company then you will save even more money
The Patriot
Because it will not address insurance companies refusing to pay out at times.
FACT - Insurance companies in the USA admit to pushing up prices, buying politicians and not paying out claims when they should [a]
FACT - PER PERSON the USA spends more on healthcare than any other nation on the planet [b]
FACT - Obama debated his plans before the election for healthcare [c]
FACT - the chance of a child under five of dying in the USA is greater than industrialised nations with universal health coverage [d]
FACT - Obama was elected by the American people to bring in change [e]
FACT - Obama wants to stop insurance companies from screwing the American people [f]
FACT - The reforms Obama wants work in the Netherlands and in Switzerland [g]
If anyone can prove the facts above are wrong, e-mail me and let me know. But seriously, why not base reform on things that have already been proven to work?
Pascha
I agree with some but not all of your proposals.
Insurance companies do a very poor job of covering catastrophic risks, and a lot of what they do what to insure is routine stuff most people don't need insurance for. The government should concentrate on the problems of catastrophic risks and let those who want to buy private insurance for other things do so.
Tax free savings accounts are an interesting idea, but whether they make economic sense depends on the details.
I think we should endeavor to reduce medical mistakes and negligence, so that people do not suffer and die needlessly. There is too much of that, including neglect which results in infections caught in the hospital. Very few victims of that actually sue, because lawyers want clients who had a huge income, because that is how they get the big awards. "Tort reform" should focus on getting rid of the bad doctors so more people don't get maimed or die.
I don't think the sale of insurance across state lines will make much of a difference.
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