Medical bill a mistake or done on purpose?

Posted by 70sfamily | 1:55:00 AM


What's you're take on the middle class being eligable for Government-Medical? Do you feel the government went too far and tried to make more people reliant on them and us pay more money out of our checks to support those asking for government assistance? Or was it an over-looked accident that needs to be corrected?
I love when people put words in my mouth or 'assume' what it is I'm thinking. I asked a genuine question, concerning an article I read of our Government being in a panic over the middle class being eligable for Government Assistance. I've heard both parties voice that either it was a mistake which needed to be corrected and that it was a purposful act on the Government to make people more reliant on them.

I never once put in my own opinion and if you'd be kind enough to answer the question without adding in your 'personal speculation' about me, then it'd be much appreciated. With that said, neither of the latter answers will be picked. :) Thanks for playing though.
*** Or that it was purposful *** not "And"

I am Schnitz
Well, the cost wouldn't be as great as you'd think since the medical industry needlessly marks up cheap, effective, life saving procedures and medicines for the sake of profit. It's not like you're paying an abhorrent amount of taxes to cover someone else's medical care. The privatization of medical care is what makes it so expensive.

Plus, one has to factor in the blurred line between the middle class and the poor. LOTS of middle class americans simply can't afford heathcare in the privatized system, and the majority of all "working class" americans lack the income to receive proper care as well.

Judith
I don't think that you know what you are talking about. For one thing our taxes are at the lowest point that they've been in for the past 60 years. No one is paying more in taxes to support welfare benefits (cash benefits and medical benefits) which most states have been cutting for years.

People who are in the middle class (or were) are the very people who have been paying the most in taxes. If they lose their jobs or become disabled they, of all people, should be able to draw upon assistance if they need it - that's what it is there for. At least the middle class hasn't made living off of welfare a lifetime habit as so many of the poor have (for whatever their reasons).

Frankly I don't begrudge anyone who is eligible from receiving assistance and I think you should be ashamed if you do. And, by the way, I do not receive assistance and never have.

araktsu
I see you have a one-option survey, so you are looking for reinforcement for what you believe.

If you were poor or rich in Canada you would receive Health Canada benefits. If you were poor or rich in the United Kingdom you would receive National Health Service benefits. In the United States if you are wealthy or have an employer subsidized health insurance plan, you can get medical care. If you are poor, medical care is probably not accessible. Some people die for this reason.

So why is that? It is because wealthy health care insurance and pharmaceutical companies influence legislation directly by what is euphemistically called campaign contributions.

The Canadians and Brits overall are not jealous of our situation.

You rarely will hear about any of this in commercial media, except perhaps from corrupt politicians reading a script about the evils of socialized medicine and how people without health insurance just want to "go naked" rather than pay. You will on the other hand get a lot of pharmaceutical ads for sex drugs, psychoactive drugs, and other luxury, high-price, long term use items that generate continuous, long-term profit. You will get a lot of ads for health insurance the poor cannot afford.

At one time in the United States, possibly before you were born, there was much industry, factories, steel mills, and so on. American industrialists influenced Congress to open free trade agreements in order to take advantage of cheap labor, i.e., not to sell American goods to other countries. Richard Nixon opened free trade with China in order to allow his financial backers, mostly investors and industrialists, to take advantage of cheap labor in China, i.e., not to sell American goods in China.

That is where your jobs in industry went and why they went. The de-industrialization of the United States was driven by the greed of wealthy industrialists and investors.

The rich attend publicly funded colleges, as do wealthy immigrants. The poor do not—they are busy working more hours for less real wages just to survive, at some dead end job without a pension, than their parents and grandparents worked.

When our country fights wars for oil or strategic schemes, it is not the sons and daughters of industrialists and Senators who are drafted. If they serve at all, they serve in protected positions. American soldiers all through the Viet Nam war were mostly male draftees, forced to fight or go to prison. What they got in return was for the Congress and administrations to sell them out for the benefit of wealthy industrialists and investors. They came home to watch industry here decline, factories close, because the labor overseas was cheap and industrialists could see a lot of profit to be made.

These days the soldiers are sometimes people who made their decision right after 9/11, but for the most part it is people who joined because it seemed like the only way to improve their socioeconomic status.

We are not a "service economy" – a term first popularized by Ronald Reagan. The Chinese and Indians can write computer code as well as Americans, but they do it for less money. Some of them immigrate to the United States to take advantage of publicly funded colleges here. Some of them, particularly wealthy Chinese, immigrate just long enough to have a baby, an instant citizen, who later in life can take advantage of lower tuition rates for citizens than for foreigners. They will also be eligible for financial aid, paid for by taxing the poorer citizens in this country who cannot afford to go to the same colleges.

Now it appears to me you are attempting to find a political scapegoat for society's economic and social problems rather than find a solution to our problems.

You could get education that would help you by utilizing lower-cost (i.e., not current edition), college-level texts on sociology, world history, economic history, world demographics, and so on. To improve your ability to reason try "Critical Thinking" by Parker and Moore, a college text.

What do you think? Answer below!

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